For many years the m1917 has been basically ignored by collectors and shooters in favor of its more popular cousin, the m1903, usually. It is well written, profusely color illustrated and just a great book. The colt new service is a large frame, large caliber, doubleaction revolver made by colt from 1898 until 1941. Dont you dare call this a p17 though or the internet police will come.
Im also posting it here in case anyone might have more information regarding my m1917 short rifle. A perfect example of this is the world war i perennial. Page 1 it is impossible to hold the arm perfectly still, but each time the line of sight is directed on the point of aim a slight additional pressure is applied to the trigger until the piece is finally discharged at one of the moments when the sights are correctly aligned upon the mark. The united states made a fortune supplying arms and ammunition to the entente powers during the early years of world war i, but by the time it came for the us to enter the war, we did not have enough guns for ourselves. The colt m1917 revolver was created to supplement insufficient stocks of. The colt model m1917 revolver, based on their 1909 new service model revolver is an altogether different gun based on the same conceptbut that is another article.
Edward ed mcgivern was a famous exhibition shooter, shooting instructor and author of the book fast and fancy revolver shooting. The other paper items in the picture are a 1943 base shop data manual for the m1917, a 1918 manual, and a 1918 soldiers handbook. Each is provided with a cylinder having six chambers arranged about a central axis so that six shots may be fired before reloading is necessary. My model 1903 colt new army revolver bears his inspector initials of jtt at the top of the frame, just above and behind the cylinder on the left side. This is in a string of documents where they are inspecting m1917s to be sold to nra members immediately after. Nevertheless, theyre still sought after by collectors and people who like to shoot old guns.
Ed mcgiverns book of fast and fancy revolver shooting. Feb 01, 2020 shooting a revolver is similar to shooting other handguns, except for loading and cocking it. I found them to have a long rough double action pull. After, it was primarily used by secondary and nondeployed troops. Both companies revolvers utilized halfmoon clips to extract the rimless. The m1917 revolver, formally united states revolver, caliber. M1917 browning machine gun the movie opens with a bank robbery near our border with mexico.
There were two variations of the m1917, one made by colt and the other made by. This is a discussion on colt 1917 revolver within the handguns forums, part of the gun forum category. Discover delightful childrens books with prime book box, a subscription that. Us ww1 m1917 lanyard patterned directly from the original. The classic american m1917 revolver was a much needed answer to a very evident problem. Used by us military forces from world war i up through world war ii.
During world war i, the official sidearm of american forces was the m1911 government. M1917 revolver internet movie firearms database guns in. Ed mcgivern is renowned as one of the greatest handgunners that ever lived. This is the sidearm used by brad pitt in the movie fury.
M1917, are single shot, breech loading hand weapons. Mar 20, 2012 revolvers arent the first thing that come to mind when i think about military guns. Colt 1917 i have both of these revolvers and i must say i like the smith and wesson 1917 much better than the colt 1917. This book provides a history of the rifle, the manufacturers, and various rebuilds and markings these magnificent old rifles collected over the last 100 years. This rifle has many names such as the american enfield but it is officially known as the us model of 1917. A target model, shooting master and deluxe target model were offered. As production of the semiautomatic m1911 colt pistol was unable to satisfy. Its the oldest book on handgun shooting ive found so far in my. Revolvers arent the first thing that come to mind when i think about military guns. Americas boltaction infantry rifles came from two main camps, but both the m1903 springfield and the m1917 enfield were sturdy, stout options to fight the kaisers forces. He was the nicest guy you could ever meet but he had been in several gunfights and is the designer of the jordan grips, the jordan holster and for whom the jordan trooper was named after. One of the things i don not like about the colt is the trigger has a two stage feel in double action and the single action pull is heavy compared to any other revolver, including other colts.
I have also had many copies in the past of fm 236, which was published in two versions during wwii for the m1917 rifle. Afterwards, it was primarily used by secondary and nondeployed troops. This pistol is a genuine us military issue with property marks stamped on receiver. M1917 rifle manuals the firearm manual and book forum. All,i thought members of might like to see a picture i took for another forum, as it has a relation to the thompson, and incorporates some of my other manuals. When i used the ladder sight, i had to use the 300 yard setting to hit the black. Colt m1917 revolver colt had produced a revolver for the u. Everything leads me to believe it is a post wwi commercial example built on a military m1917 frame. Mcgivern also performed extensive research into handgun shooting, particularly with the doubleaction revolver. Over 300,000 m1917 revolvers were issued to frontline troops in wwi.
The grips would be correct for a post wwi commercial revolver. Jun 02, 2016 the classic american m1917 revolver was a much needed answer to a very evident problem. Pistol and revolver shooting abraham lincoln artman. Colt redesigned its m1909 revolver and the m1917 was born. Both are very accurate at 25 yards given the fixed sights.
To load a revolver, youll need to open the cylinder, load a round into each chamber, and push the cylinder back in until it clicks. Its not about getting my money back its about that i like the feel and looks of the 1917. A great film and book, too, but accuracy can be sought and attained, so get it right. I just looked at 3 of my very early m1917 examples with ghs markings. The timetested m1917 is still a sweet shooter, even 100 years on. In 1914, colonel thompson retired from the military to work for remington arms co. There was a flaming bomb mark, but no other marks the finish is rough. As there is a browning 1917 water cooled machine gun it should be after the 1st world war, the gun is an anachronism as the movie took place during pershings time in mexico mar 14,1916 to feb 07. The m1917 fired the same round as the m1911 and filled the combat gaps that werent able to procure the more desirable m1911s. M1917 rifle manuals posted in the firearm manual and book forum.
Even in wwi, andrew from archival research group found more m1917s failed than low number m1903s. Once youve loaded it, grip the revolver and support it with your nondominant hand to help distribute the recoil. But what i did find, that i have never seen in any book, is there were a lot of safety issues with the m1917s. Us ww1 m1917 military pistol revolver lanyard ebay. The armorer offers you a colt automatic pistol, caliber. But in many case the rifle will need work, particularly its barrel, to get on target. Taurus 1191101cmfde 1911 commander 45 automatic colt pistol ac. Army called the m1909, a version of their heavyframe. Standing in the shadow of the 1911, m1 garand or m16 thats understandable. The m1917 revolver formally united states revolver, caliber.
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